Original "Resources for Scat Models" Google Doc
This is an old document that was distributed through a google doc. It was made years ago and has been updated occasionally but not reviewed. There is still lots of useful information in here!
Table of Contents
- General Advice
- Social Media
- Snapchat
- Fetlife
- Filming Clips
- Basics
- Equipment
- Editing
- Sending Clips
- Selling Clips + Subscriptions
- Sites that allow Scat
- Sites that DON’T Allow Scat
- Accepting Payment
- DIY Payments for Online Stores
- Apps + Alternatives
- Selling Shipped Items
- Privacy
- Buying Postage
- Customs, Borders and International Shipping
- Selling Custom Videos
- Meet-ups
General Advice
I’ve made a place for me to post some articles and helpful links for getting started and growing your brand. I’ll be updating regularly so keep an eye on it! https://kinkyscat.com/resources
It’s worth noting that many traditionally adult-oriented websites and resources do not allow scat content. This is because in many countries it is illegal to sell (under obscenity laws this is true in the USA). If there is scat content, then payment processors, the things that allow people to buy things on websites, will not work with the site. This is why there isn’t scat allowed in places like Pornhub.
Many scat models just work around these rules. It means whole accounts will be shut down without warning and it’s best to keep yourself in many different places so no single blow is too serious and your fans can always find you.
Some referral links are included throughout but I am clear where they will benefit or harm you to use and you do not have to use them at all if you are uncomfortable doing so. Most links are just additional information though.
I also include information on my own site, FemScat.com, as a place to sell clips. I’m biased! But I think it’s a really good clip selling platform.
If you have any other useful information or disagree with anything here, please reach out! cassie5221@gmail.com
Hired Help
I often hire contractors to help me with things including technology stuff that I don’t know how to do, time-consuming data entry for uploading clips and social media. Here are some tips and referrals:
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Get an NDA signed and get their ID
- This will make sure they are a legal age to see porn and create a barrier for scammers
- Check references from other people they have worked for
- The NDA ensures there are legal consequences to them doxxing you or withholding access to your social media or other accounts
- Someone in your own country is best for keeping everyone legally responsible for their actions, but I often hire outside my country if they are well known
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Keep track of their jobs and the work done so far
- You can pay per task or per hour
- Ex. pay a set amount to get a twitter account the first 1000 followers or to create a simple website
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Change all passwords just before letting someone go or as soon as they have completed a project
My Favorite Contractor
I have hired Leo for many jobs over several years and he has always done very well. I continue to work with him to this day! He has automated a lot of my social media, helped create cassiescatstore.com, made kinkyscat.com and more.
I recommend for beginners some bots to automate social media. This could mean creating a tweet whenever you post on reddit, or repeating popular tweets every week. Ask Leo for advice, he may have some ideas for you.
Here is some information from him:
I’m Leo and own Voxa, a consultancy company that writes software, builds websites and automate tasks for sex workers. If you want it, I can write it! Most of my work involves
- Building web stores
- Automating social media posts
- Automating video uploads
- Integrating with payment gateways, including Inet-Cash
- Automating payouts
If you have an idea for a project, get in touch and I’d be more than happy to tell you more about how I can make your life a little easier. Shoot me an email at l@voxa.com if you’d like to chat.
Taxes
A good general tip is once you start making money, put that shit in your taxes. HR Block (USA and Canada) is well known as not being judge-y and you don’t need to get into details anyways - give vague info like you have a youtube channel or something but do pay your taxes. Angry men love to threaten calling the IRS and it’s nice to say ‘go for it’. They’ll give you tips on writing things off as expenses too! Like your phone and internet bills!
Here is a thread about writing off work expenses on your taxes in the US and Canada.
Social Media
Twitter:
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Generally many NSFW accounts exist freely on twitter
- Shadowbanning can happen so be aware of this
- Some models keep second twitter accounts that don’t post anything and ask that people follow them in case their main account ever gets suspended
- No nudity or poop in your profile picture or cover photo - you will be suspended
- Mark your account as NSFW if it’s NSFW
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There are active scat and hard sports hashtags and twitter communities
- Using sites like hashtagify.me will help you find the best hashtags
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Follow other scat models and do what they do to learn about twitter
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Bots are helpful! They keep your account active and save you time
- Many clip sites have the option to attach your twitter and they will auto-post
- You can make your own bots on Zapier. I recommend creating RSS feeds and using Zapier to create twitter bots with them
- If you can’t get a handle on bots - ask a fan to make you one! Trade them a clip or pay them.
- Be careful about using follow bots, these can get you suspended
Reddit:
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I’m biased but this is the nicest part of the scat social media circles
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Some good subreddits to follow are Coprophiles, RealScatGirls, GirlsPooping more subreddits go up all the time, find a full list here
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Always read and follow the subreddit rules, if you can’t find or don’t understand the rules, message the moderators and they will help
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Make your own subreddit with your name, you can advertise there and generate a following
- Some people just post to their profile instead of making their own subreddit which is fine but I’d recommend creating a subreddit of your name so nobody else takes it
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It is worth getting approved to post on FetishSelling so you can sell and advertise there
Instagram:
- They will ban girls just for being too hot, I don’t recommend trying to get away with anything here
Snapchat:
- Many scat and fart fetish models sell snapchat subscriptions
- This can be a great way to make money if you know your way around snapchat
- Double check that your phone contacts can’t be recommended to follow your snapchat (I have been recommended to my friend’s horny snapchats before when they had no idea)
- Also double check your followers can’t see your location for your safety
Fetlife:
- This is a specifically NSFW social media
- Doesn’t allow scat photos or videos but they can be put on private for your ‘friends’ to view
- You can advertise what you sell here
- There are scat communities and some for models that are worth checking out
Filming Clips
Basics:
- Most customers I find prefer videos filmed landscape versus portrait
- Check your lighting to make sure the picture is clear
- Make sure there isn’t a smudge on the lens
- Some models show their face, some don’t, some only do partially or with a mask
- Talk! Dance! Add personality, be creative and have fun
- Double check that the camera is on, recording and has good battery charge
Basic Equipment:
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Just film on your phone at the beginning, upgrade later if you feel it is necessary
- This is the one all cam girls use and has been since I bought it in 2016
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Standard to 1080p but some models do 720p and it’s fine. Don’t do higher quality, most customers watch on their phones anyways and the file size becomes unmanageable
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Little phone/webcam tripods and tiny ring lights are great and cheap
- Sometimes i wrap the tripod legs around towel loops, toilet paper holders and doorknobs in the bathroom for different angles
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Pet pee pads and drop cloths are good for getting a little messy
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PLEASE vacuum seal anything you ship. I use a basic vacuum sealer from amazon
Editing:
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Use imovie or window’s movie maker (this might not exist anymore, whatever the new equivalent free windows thing is)
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Simple edits like brightening the clip (so they can see you and your HD butthole clearly), reducing background noise and cutting out boring parts or interruptions by your cat is pretty much all that’s necessary
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Watermark EVERYTHING. People can and will steal and you might as well get free advertising out of it
- I just write “CassieScat” in the corner, fairly small (40-50pt in 1080p)
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Output in 1080p or 720p and don’t make the file size too big since most people watch on their phones. I use 6-10 for mbps (bitrate?) I don’t know what that is but that’s what was recommended to me when I started and it’s been fine
Sending Clips:
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If they aren’t automatically sent to the customer, use a file sharing service
- I use Mega.nz since they value privacy and security
- Google Drive has been known to peep your videos and take down flagged ones with no warning (happened to me!)
- WeTransfer and Dropbox are also options
- (untested by me) a youtube channel account and you publish your videos on ‘private’ to store them with innocent video file names and titles. Some will get caught but apparently most don’t and it’s unlimited and free
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Make sure your clips are backed up in as many places as possible, you WILL run out of room and laptops, websites, clouds and external hard drives WILL break. Don’t lose your hard work!
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Double check the metadata on your clips. You can google how to do this. Sometimes it will say your real name or location so be sure to change it to something fake of turn it off.
Selling Clips + Subscriptions
The first place models sell clips is usually just in one-on-one interactions with fans. They will be in your dms and ask to buy something custom or the full video from a preview you posted or in a bundle (ex. 10 random scat videos for $60)
- They’ll pay using an app usually and you will send them the clips in a file sharing link like dropbox (sign up through here to give me more precious storage space)
Sites that allow Scat:
A helpful document for the bigger sites! https://sophieladder.com/spreadsheet
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Yezzclips
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The most famous with an active, mostly european customer base
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Based in the Netherlands, this site legally is allowed to sell scat
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Reputable as far as I’ve heard
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The payouts are LOUSY with fees and will be small so many models hike up their prices to make up for this. I get paid out 35-40% minus $10 payout fee.
- Since they are reputable, waiting longer between payouts (like at $200 instead of $100) will reduce fees without much risk
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Join the affiliate program and post your links around: it’s a separate account but 40% of the yezzclips money I make is from customer referrals and I don’t even actively post links
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I don’t recommend joining to sell through a referral link as the referral payout seemingly comes out of your own portion of sales
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- If you want to anyways for some reason OR are a customer, here is my referral link: https://www.yezzclips.com/affin.php?cid=04b838e87f686c5&sid=1617
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FemScat.com
- IN DEPTH FAQ and REVIEW HERE
- I made this site! It took me months but I’m very proud
- Legally able to sell scat videos
- Reputable (I have a good reputation and work with the same software devs and payments as CassieScatStore and Yezzclips)
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70% payouts
- Best payout option for scat clips on the market
- VAT is passed to the customer so models don’t have to pay that
- Free payouts are available when minimum amount is reached, depending on country, otherwise 10 USD
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Model-run, model-owned AND the money I make off the site is from selling my own clips, not you selling yours.
- I answer all the support emails and messages and approve models myself (now another femscat model has been hired to help)
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Explicitly trans inclusive and inclusive of models from any background
- I prioritize independent models only, not studios.
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ALLOWS MODELS TO ADVERTISE THEIR OTHER PLATFORMS
- Link your twitter, your website, your ‘competitor’ platforms, anything
- I always hated this being censored elsewhere so I will not do the same
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Advertises for you and promotes your twitter
- I tweet EVERY CLIP and post on reddit and other places about your videos
- Tweets advertising your clips will also @ your twitter account if you want, to build your following
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Constantly improving
- I take input from models very seriously and I’m already working on improvements and expansions
SIGN UP TO SELL YOUR CLIPS ON FEMSCAT.COM HERE
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ScatShop
- Probably the most famous and most notorious
- Has an active customer base so you don’t need to bring your own customers
- Based in Florida and is extremely shifty about payment and taxes so likely is illegally selling this content
- Pays out 60% with no fees for American models
- Has been proven to lie about the amount of sales you get and to withhold payouts, sometimes forever so be careful and don’t consider any money as yours until it’s in your bank account
- Watermark your videos (check the scatshop rules on what type of watermark is allowed) since it’s been alleged videos are bought here to be sold by customers without your permission
- I don’t recommend using it except maybe in the very beginning to get some fans who will hopefully be able to find you elsewhere once you leave
- How to Close you Scatshop Store SAFELY because unfortunately there needs to be a walkthrough for that
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CassieScatStore.com (my site)
- I’m biased since it’s my own site so take that into consideration
- This was my first go into making a clip site with more than one model - it was hard!
- I learned a lot and the site is still going to run but it has been replaced by FemScat.com for new models since it’s a better site with better payouts and is easier for models to use
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Your Own Site!
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Buy up the domain name associated with your online persona as soon as you can
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You can just start with a free website that hosts a blog and a way to reach out to you, this is great for advertising and allows fans to contact you and find you through google
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For a couple years I would advertise my clips and have customers contact me through email to organize a way to pay (apps normally) and which clips they’d like. This works just fine but will lose you any impulse buyers, shy customers or customers who don’t speak English well.
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Once you feel ready to handle running an online store, you can set that up
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Here is a great list of payment processors that will legally work with scat
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The only processor I can recommend is inet-cash since it’s what every site I know uses.
- But lord is it hard to get in touch with them for customer service!
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WetSet.net
- Only for pantypooping and diaper videos
- Very nice and helpful admin - run by a model and her husband from what I know
- 60% payout
- A bit of a clunky old site but they treat their models well
- Totally legal to sell scat content
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XSiteBunny
- IN DEPTH FAQ and REVIEW HERE
- The Best Subscription site in my opinion for Americans
- Same structure as OnlyFans so customer buy a subscription that renews monthly and they see your videos
- Allows the most categories of videos I’ve ever seen, including scat
- 90% payout. 6 dollar payout fee for americns, 25 for everyone else which really cuts into it.
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Very involved and difficult sign up process. If you don’t read or understand English well, have someone to help you
- There are videos you need to watch and quizzes with questions about the video that you need to answer to sign up! It’s like school work haha
- The customer support is VERY good and helpful so feel free to ask for help
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Black-owned which is cool! The team seems really dedicated and nice
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New and growing. They don’t have a huge scat customer base so bring your existing fans, but they have said they are happy to advertise scat content and scat models alongside their vanilla models on their social media (other platforms are not eager to advertise the more niche fetishes like scat, even if they sell it)
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Easy and simple to use once you’re signed up
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Lots of opportunities for growth
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Here is my referral link, the cut taken does not come from your payout for signing up through this link, so please do! It helps me out: https://app.xsitebunny.com/signup/?referral=19796
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ScatBook
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The structure of OnlyFans but it allows scat!
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Big corporate site with lots of money behind it run by someone with a dirty anal fetish and studio porn experience but no real experience on the seller side
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Big popular twitter that doesn’t seem to respond to DMs or “@”s from model accounts to get retweeted which is unfortunate. No clue how to get featured or promoted there
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Referral system for signing up AND for general links to your profile
- You can turn off the ability for people to do use affiliate links to your profile but it seems buggy and i’ve had people get a cut from my sales using a link even though it’s turned off
- That being said, I have done some advertising for other models and gotten a cut from their sales from my ads using the link so it works as advertised in that direction
- Sign up referrals are a great way to get money from signing up your friends and the DON’T TAKE A CUT FROM MODELS which is lovely.
- Use my referral if you sign up, it won’t cost you anything! https://scatbook.com/?ref=10003211
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I’ve been using it a little bit and have found that the site works well but has bugs
- I’ve used the subscription service, individual sales and physical items, not live
- Messaging works well! No email notifications when I get messages though even though it’s turned on.
- The twitter set up is awful, I’d keep that turned off
- I can only add previews to my videos after publishing by going back to edit the post
- Payouts can sometimes be unreliable in terms of taking a long time but they don’t seem to be stealing, more of a scaling issue.
- Customer service is very poor and unreliable, again seems like more of an issue with priorities than something purposeful
- The referral system is buggy, Mine turned back on a couple times after i turned it off so keep an eye on it if you don’t want referrals
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Sign up here! It’s a referral link which won’t cost you anything
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Sites that DON’T Allow Scat:
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Clips4Sale
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Very reputable, big customer base, very helpful staff who seem very genuinely to care about sex worker’s rights
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I’d recommend using them but not breaking their rules, they will catch you but every time there has been a rule change or they’ve noticed an accidental rule break on my part they help me fix it and don’t close my store or withhold pay
- You may not use forbidden words like ‘poop’ ‘scat’ etc.
- They have ‘toilet slavery’ ‘toilet fetish’ ‘farting’ and other scat-adjacent categories to use
- I upload toilet slavery instruction videos, video on the toilet that don’t show anything, farting videos, peeing videos (no drinking or golden showers allowed) and videos where I can censor or crop out any pooping while still having an enjoyable clip
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They require 10 clips to start a store but I’d recommend having even more than that ready to post since they will promote your store during the first month so it’s good to post as often as possible during this time
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I post about once a week consistently for a few years and make between 200-400 USD monthly
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You are no longer allowed to link out to other sites so make sure your fans there can figure out where to find you through google (ex. My name on there is CassieScat)
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Pornhub
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VERY big customer base, becoming reputable with models
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You can find scat content on there but not from anyone getting paid (verified)
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You have to join the model program to make any money
- I’ve included my referral link, it’s a one time bonus for me at no detriment to the user
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You can’t sneak around their rules so don’t bother trying but staff has been helpful with me in finding the exact line I can toe before breaking a rule
- Rules now include any word mention even spoken of poop except the word shit and any implication of shitting. Not really usable anymore.
- For example using the name “CassiesCat” instead of “CassieScat” to maintain my SEO
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You can link to your own social media and websites in your profile, video descriptions and watermarks as long as they don’t contain forbidden words (think CassiesCatStore.com versus CassieScatStore.com) so it’s good for advertising
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I get paid consistently 50 USD on views and small video purchases for free videos I post. Not much, but I use the site for advertising so it’s a nice bonus to be paid
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IWantClips
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Specializes in Femdom but also has other categories
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Pretty much the same as Clips4Sale EXCEPT
- They have been involved in drama, Violet Doll being their top model and customer draw for years has spoken out against them and left the site
- Doesn’t allow pee content
- Smaller more niche customer base, I don’t make many sales there
- GREAT clip preview creator
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OnlyFans
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Well-known subscription service
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Bring your own fans and customers, they won’t advertise for you
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Has definitely been involved in drama and stolen from models. They likely discriminate against models outside the US and Canada who have less legal ability to defend themselves and can’t get payouts as often
- Set payout frequency to as often as possible, the money is only yours once it’s in your bank
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Scat models go around their rules and put up scat content anyways
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Don’t use forbidden words in your email, profile, username, file names, private DMs with followers, etc.
- Don’t censor them like sc@t, or s*** as bots will catch this, instead use allowed words like ‘turd’, ‘load, ‘dump’ or ‘mess’
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Only use SFW profile pic and cover photo and don’t mention scat content in your profile at all. Your customers know what you do, just put something vague
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It is risky to connect your twitter or other scat content to OnlyFans but I’ve seen people do it, not sure whether it improves the odds of being approved or rejected
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I’d recommend having your first several uploads not include scat, (instruction videos, farting, masturbation, etc) and once you have a couple followers, maybe a week after start incorporating scat
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Use a referral code from a model with a larger following of people who might also like your content! They get paid based on your sales in the first year so this model will likely help advertise your OnlyFans
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They have a great, easy-to-use interface that allows you to queue videos for consistent posting, offer discounts to lapsed subscribing fans and give free 1 week trials (I only give these as gifts to say thanks to people)
- Look under the ‘list’ heading to see all your current and expired fans. Offer discounts to expired fans to get them back! Reward long time members with little freebies, etc.
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My Scat Onlyfans’ project: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSd_k5v0Ilm73r4DPFOJn3bgvwUB1HRozPxvGDLg2n9lUDPfWw/viewform?usp=sf_link
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Snapchat
- I literally know nothing about snapchat or selling premium subscriptions there, I don’t like using it personally
- Basic tips from someone who feels too old to use snapchat
- If anyone does this and has info they’d like to include, let me know! cassie5221@gmail.com
Accepting Payment
Read through here first, it’s a great resource! Wish I’d remembered it before writing everything below haha
Tips and Payment Sites:
- There are lots of sites (including SFW, like Ko-fi) that allow customers to ‘tip’ you and this can be used as payment for agreed upon customs or clips.
- They all have various rules and cuts they take so they are worth researching
- /r/FetishSelling has a list! It’s really comprehensive actually since last time I looked
Bank Transfers:
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Interac e-transfers
- are great between Canadians and can be made fairly anonymous in the settings
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Zelle
- can be used in the US only, pretty new for me so do further research
- I think all they will see is your phone number or email associated with the bank account and which bank
- From what I’ve read the payments can’t be reversed by customers like with paypal and google pay
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Wire Transfers
- Woo this seems like a lot of work and fees on everyone’s part
- Would be pretty rough privacy-wise in my opinion
- Scammers use them, the money isn’t yours until it is in your account AND no longer held by your bank (sometimes they are ‘pending’ then get cancelled when it turns out the sending account was empty)
DIY Payments for Online Stores:
- Paypal! Don’t do it! Read under ‘Alternatives’
- Here is a list of payment processors (the things that let customers pay on a site) that legally work with scat
Apps + Alternatives:
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Paypal
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Not sex worker/NSFW friendly at all
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They will ban people for adult content who don’t even do adult content
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They will ban porn stars who only ever use paypal to buy stuffed animals on ebay, doesn’t matter
- If they ban you don’t waste time trying to get unbanned
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Customers can file a complaint and get a refund after you have already made them a whole custom video and people do this
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If you use them, look up ways to avoid scams and make sure any money you make is immediately taken out of your paypal account and put into your bank account so it’s not lost if your account is frozen
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Venmo
- Owned by paypal so same info goes here
- If you’ve been booted off one and use any overlapping info (email, name, bank) for the other, they will boot you here too
- If you use them, make sure your transactions are private or your contacts will see it and the notes from customers are random emojis only or a vague ‘thanks’!
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CashApp
- You’ll be breaking the rules but we all do use this one
- You can only use it if you and your customer are both in the same country (US or UK) and have mobile phones
- Pretty anonymous and easy to use, that’s why NSFW girls love it
- Don’t rely on it exclusively, they are getting bigger and could crack down on you any day
- Use my referral to give me and get you $5 off the first time you send money :)
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Google Pay (Google Wallet)
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I use this one with trusted customers only since customers can complain and get money back
- Google drive has cracked down on porn (I got a bunch of my files removed) so Pay/Wallet will too
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US and India only - I haven’t tested for India though
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I have the money go right to my bank account and use my ‘Cassie’ email to lower risk of reversed payments and privacy issues
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Reject it if they write something too obvious in the note with payment (ex. Payment for porn from ‘username’ vs ‘thanks’ or better yet nothing)
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Bitcoin/Crypto
- Go nuts if this is your thing but not many customers use it
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Giftcards
- Most commonly Amazon giftcards are basically the most surface level black market in existence right now lol
- They only show emails so are very anonymous
- They can only be used on amazon and can’t be used to buy other giftcards (boo)
- MAKE SURE the customer buys an amazon giftcard in the same currency of the country you buy amazon things in (ex have them buy it on amazon.ca if your amazon purchases are on amazon.ca)
- Send the card back if they write something too obvious in the note with the e-giftcard (ex. Payment for porn from ‘username’ vs ‘thanks’ or better yet nothing)
- People will scam by ‘buying things’ from your wishlist (you will even see the item checked off as bought on your list) or sending giftcards, then cancelling the order once they get what they want. Nothing is real until the item has been shipped and is in your hands or the gift card is added to your balance.
Selling Shipped Items
VERY questionable in terms of legality and whether it is against the rules of postal services, customs or doctors. Do this at your own risk! I literally have no clue about these things.
I don’t think any payment processor allows this explicitly. I use a different payment method for shipped things only so as not to risk any of the ways I legally get paid for customs and clips.
What to use + Privacy
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Put a return address or the post will be suspicious and open it or just not ship it
- Use a PO box or something random
- Safe bet is a (consenting!) friend or an apartment building address but with no listed unit #
- I move often enough for work that I use my real address sometimes out of laziness since I know I’ll be gone within the year and haven’t had an issue
- Use initials as the sender name so it looks like a business
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Do not hand-write labels, printed is less likely to get the customer in trouble
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Use the most boring packaging available, I use grey bubble mailers
- Some customers on occasion may want pink tissue paper, lipstick kisses and personal touches but keep that INSIDE the package
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USPS will ship you (or you can pick up) free flat-rate packaging which self-seal (no buying tape!) which you can use with their flat-rate pricing
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Vacuum seal anything with a smell or wetness for the love of god
- I use these vacuum bags
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For baked items, bake in a foil takeout container and once cooled, you can vacuum seal and ship as-is. Very little clean-up and wastes less product taking it out of the tray. I use these containers since they fit perfectly in vacuum sealing bags
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For liquids like piss, I use 8oz (250mL) containers with lids. Please vacuum seal the container after in case of leaks.
Buying Postage:
- Use an online shipping service for personal use or small business owners
- Do your research like you run an etsy shop and you will find lots of options in the US and Canada with different rates and plans
- I’ve used Stamps.com and they were good
Customs, Borders and International Shipping:
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Remember: Customs Officers are cops and cops are ‘worried about bigger issues’ (lazy) so it’ll be probably be ok
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Label it a ‘gift’ to avoid fees where it’s an option
- Make the value of the items under $20, this will avoid most fees
- As far as I know, NAFTA means no fees on small, cheap merchandise going between USA, Canada and Mexico but NAFTA has been wacked out since 2016 so who knows
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Be very specific in your lie about what’s inside
- Best to pick something that fits the weight and feel (or even the look)
- I say “1 XS t-shirt” for panties, or “1 mud mask kit” for scat
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Don’t require a signature or anything, that’ll be annoying for the customer
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ASK the customer if they have any tips for getting through customs and remind them that it is their responsibility to know the laws of their own country and know if there’s import fees awaiting them
Selling Custom Videos
There are 2 big ones here
- You probably aren’t charging enough
- Get fully paid before doing literally anything, this is industry standard, anyone convincing you otherwise is lying to ri[ you off
How much should I charge:
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Many models use pay-per-minute methods of working out price with a minimum
- For my simpler videos I usually charge 10-20USD/minute with 6 minute minimum
- People are fully going to ask for a video that will take 10 minutes to do but only ask for 5 minutes long. Tell them to simplify it or that you will need it to be longer to not rush
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Mostly I charge based on how involved the video is:
- Will I be tired after? Does it require a lot of clean-up? Does it require setting up cameras? Editing? Special outfits? Scripts? Am I excited by it? Are there materials being used up?
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Having no solid payment structure allows you to change up your prices based on things like how much spare time you have and how much you want to film that idea!
How to talk about money:
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Talking about money is awkward so get yourself a script and get comfortable in it
- I work in sales + data in my day job in case you can’t tell!
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I under-charged for my work in the beginning. You can ALWAYS change your prices as you go and please do. If you have more experience you should charge more
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“How much do you charge for customs?”
- “Depends on the video! What’s your idea and your budget?”
- “My lowest is $50 for something very simple but most videos are $80-120 or more for something niche. Depends on the video! What’s your idea?”
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“Here is my idea: … How much would that be?”
- Give a range: “If you take off this (part I don’t like as much) and the video is 5-7 minutes long I can do $x or I can really take my time with the dirty talk and get creative in a nice long 10-12 minute video for $X, it’s up to you!”
- Go higher than you think but give room for flexibility: “Usually a video like that from me costs $X. I’m open to edits if you’re on a budget”
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“That is more than I can afford”
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Offer to simplify their idea and shorten the video if you would still like the sale and they can afford a simpler custom
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If they are too broke for a custom, direct them to premade clips you sell that are similar to the type of custom they wanted
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If they are too broke for a custom OR premade, let them know you won’t be going anywhere and that they can come back when they are more able to treat themselves
- I am never waiting on emails from fans working out their custom ideas even if they seem on the verge of payment
- Just keep the email, sometimes they come back and pay literally years later (it’s happened) when they are hornier and have a better job haha
- Keep a blacklist of repeat offenders who will drag out conversations on their fantasy video but never get around to paying so you know not to give them much, if any, time
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Meet-ups
All I am willing to recommend for these is that you be careful, take ID (if you work with a minor that is NOT good and it’ll weed out weirdos) and use a professional BDSM dungeon if possible.
Look up your local prostitution laws. Talk to other local girls who do it. Scat play can actually be a loophole situation legally as long as nobody touches each other’s genitals or butthole.
Look up safety tips from experienced sex workers online, they know best.
One is not to work with anyone who tells you they are police or military (navy, marines, air force whatever). This is a LONG TIME industry red flag not info coming from me. Doesn’t matter why, just trust the girls who came before you!
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If you have any other useful information to add or disagree with any part of this document, please reach out! cassie5221@gmail.com